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  1. #1
    Matthews
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    Default Polarstar VS. DaytonaGun

    Hey guys...
    I am putting together a custom support weapon build using an A&K M249 body, and I was looking for your input.
    I've narrowed it down to these two systems, DTG M249 Drop-in or the new Polarstar P249 Fusion Engine. What are the advantages of both? Can anyone tell me of their specific experience with the DTG 249....opinion and performance?

    Here is what I want out of my build:
    400+ FPS with a .25g
    18-25 RPS for ROF
    Conservative Gas Usage with 20oz CO2
    Loud Report
    Reliability
    Recoil is a plus but not too important

    DTG 249 Drop-In:
    $399

    Polarstar P249 Fusion Engine:
    $450

    If you know anything about the system (frogfish), which would you choose and why?

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    Must be pretty new stuff Matt....I wasnt aware of either of these and Google was not much help. I assume that they are gas op systems to replace the electric GB's.

    With anything that new...do you really want it before its tweaked by some time and use in the market? Thats pretty expensive man.

  3. #3
    Matthews
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    You're pretty much right on it... They are drop in replacements for AEG gearboxes that convert the gun to a tethered Gas Operating System. Basically, drop-in Gasboxes.

    Look here Zen, It will blow your mind:
    Polarstar isn't even released yet but is rumored to be the top shelf in performance and FPS capabilities:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/PolarStarAirsoft
    (Extreme Performance ROF/FPS)

    DTG boxes have been available for a while now and have been teaked/perfected by a few retailers.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...snum=0&spell=1
    (Offers realism and recoil in place of extreme performance)

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    Zen's Avatar Community Elder Statesman
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    One word...."daayyyummmm"

    Since I am a realism junkie, the Daytona" kick system would be my choice...though I cant see myself carrying it. Vehicle mounted? Abso-frickin-lutely.

    Wonder if you could drop that in a custom built Browning 1919....dayum.

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    Matthews
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    Yeah it is a tough decision... both sound intimidating as hell!

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    if your looking for recoil and a more overall durable gun get the DG kit

    if your looking to have a system where you can adjust FPS and ROF on the fly to meet field rules etc. the fusion kit is morre flexible.

    I haven't owned a DG M249 ,but I've owned an Escort MP5 which operates under the same principles as the DG kit and it is a solid system once it's tuned properlly. There aren't any electrocincs systems onboard the system will enable you to get down and dirty and not worry about a short or electrical failure.

    I haven't a clue about the abilites of polarstars system for their fusion kits, but they seem to allow the user to have more consistancy and seeing as the system is a giant solenoid it will allow for a person to change FPS/ROF on the fly which is always is a positive thing. Only problem is I don't know how well the electronics would fair against debris and crap.

    Honestlly if I wanted to purchase one right now I would probally get the DG drop in kit because I prefer realism and durability and it's cheaper.
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    Anyone know with either how many shots you'll get in one 20oz tank?


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    Matthews
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    Polarstar Fusion engine is rumored at 5000rnds at normal operating PSI (~100PSI)
    Not sure about the DTG system.

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    Matthews,

    They are two completely different solutions for two completely different playstyles.

    The DTG kit is designed for recoil, range is on par with what you would expect out of an AEG, but ROF is more realistic due to the mechanism, it is not a BB hose like many lipo using SAWs.

    Recoil is quite strong, like a 22lr, and they are very loud. I've owned a first gen DTG drop in kit as well as the latest, while it's not in my possession now, I have sold part of it to my best friend in Texas who uses it regularly to good effect (I prefer BV classics).

    Escorts are also relatively light on gas use as well (compared to BVs) so you could possibly expect a 20oz CO2 bottle to last all day long (roughly ~3000rds) if you did short controlled bursts.

    But remember the DTG kit isn't exactly drop in, some minor modifications need to be done to make it fit (none that prevent re-installation of the AEG components) and tuning it can be a long and arduous process if you've never done it before. However the community on CA.net is great and will guide you on your way.

    The Polarstar is another direction entirely as it has minimal recoil, but has adjustability, while not exactly on the fly (requires a computer) you can essentially take any V2/M249 AEG and make it into a well tuned DMR or high ROF spouting SAW. It is essentially a hybrid gas/AEG, nothing like an Escort/DTG.

    The only problem with the polarstar box right now is that it still dosen't exist as a product, and outside of polarstar themselves we have no idea of how it behaves, it could be a waste of $450 (much like the madbull 470) or it could be a true revolution in airsoft.


    Either way you'll need to set up a decent air rig, so expect to drop somewhere between $150-$190 if you buy new, and factor that into your price.


    Now for personal opinion, I have a BV operated classic that fills the role of DMR for me ( shoots ~289 ft at about 360fps w/.2g BB, and my preferred playstyle) after having quite a few other escort based classics, I just wasn't impressed, sure they are nifty and cool, but in all honesty I'd rather use my BV. The polarstar is really cool in that I can have one AEG with multiple uppers for different situations, and as I have a toughbook, programing it at the field is not a problem for me, if the box is moderately reliable I could see showing up to an op with my BV and a polarstar and just using whatever the day calls for instead of lugging around several different replicas like I currently do. I've got a friend who claims "he's first in line" for one when they come out, I can keep updating you as he works on his.


    Now for you guys who love realism, the DTG kit could be a dream come true, the recoil gives you this jolt that just sends chills down your spine if you've never used it before, and they are loud enough that the sound alone has gotten me surrenders/kills. Just make sure to locktite everything as it will rattle an AEG body to bits.
    Last edited by frogfish; 03-20-2011 at 11:38 PM.

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    I am eagerly awaiting a polar star unit! Don't know the specs but the ability to use native hop up is very appealing to me. Mike, do you know if polar star uses it's own hop up or the gun's?
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